Gold Community Call (November 13, 2018)


Gold Community Call (November 13, 2018)

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Call Date

Tuesday, November 13, 2018 - 2:00pm


  1. Welcome and Introductions
  2. New Resource: Use of Funds Tip Sheet
  3. Group Discussion: Approving Innovative Uses of Funds
  4. Closing and Adjourn: Save the Date for upcoming Office Hours, December 21, 2018


Welcome and Introductions: review agenda, introductions of all community members


Updates from NDTAC

·        New Resource: Use of Funds Tip Sheet

o   Katie Deal was the primary author on this recently released document. It is a tip sheet that is approximately three pages in length and has an appendix that is more a FAQ document.   

·        Topical Call in December

o   Will feature the Use of Funds Tip Sheet

o   The Topical Call is scheduled to take place on either December 17th or 19th. An invitation will be sent soon.

o   Presentation Opportunities

§  NDTAC is available to participate in your state’s professional development opportunities.

§  You can look at past presentations on the website.

·   We will cover staff time and we ask that you cover travel, per diem, and lodging.  

Format – Today we will be piloting this office hours format. 


Seminal Topics

·        Approving Innovative Uses of Funds

o   What are the ways in which you approve innovative use of funds?

o   What are examples of ways you have supported subgrantees to help them use Title I, Part D funds?


Career and Technical Education Courses/Certification

Francine Stromber, NJ – Most subgrantees have not thought outside the box. This year we have quarterly meetings and we are focusing on vocational or CTE courses where youth can earn certificates to help with job obtainment (i.e., Safe Food Handling, Flagging). We are trying to push more CTE certificates. Our role is helping the facilities think of CTE and other one to two-day classes to give the students something for transition. It is helping the facilities think outside of the box. Coming from a correctional background, we were offering these programs in correctional facilities. Bringing these programs into detention facilities has been an easier transition.

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – You can be the cheerleader or messenger to bring new ideas to facilities. At NDTAC we maintain a database where we keep track of the questions that come in from coordinators. It serves a living document and a record of questions that have been asked in the past and our responses.  One of the most recent innovative use of funds questions that I have received was a license fee for a therapy dog.

Resuscitation Dolls

Mary Russman and Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – We has a subgrantee who wanted to know if they could buy bodies (Subpart 1). We had to ask them to clarify.  The subgrantee was looking for Resuscitation Annie for science. The program allowed students to get Red Cross/CPR Certified.


Post Release Transition Services

Mary Russman and Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – Another subgrantee wanted to use part of their grant for transition services for more of an outside program for when kids leave. We reached out to NDTAC. You sent us the list of questions. They appear on the tip sheet. We used the questions as a pilot. We were trying to use the funds mostly for inside the facility, but kids are entering and exiting. It has been very beneficial for them.


Computer Technology/Hardware/Software

Mary Russman and Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – We had one facility who wanted to buy a Z space (Subpart 2). They had one child who they wanted to engage in a science curriculum. The Z space has lesson plans and everything tied back to state goals. It has everything from art, CTE, to science classes where students can engage in dissections. The costs are related to the hardware.  The Z space was an interesting thing. Paula brought it up to the Commissioner and emergency regulations were put through that allowed for this technology. 


Ken Krawchuk, PA – I have a question that just came up today. Can N&D funds be used to help kids pay for afterschool or extracurricular athletics?

Karen Auble, OH – I typically steer away from this unless it is connected to mentoring or some other area.

David, NDTAC – I would go back to the questions in the tip sheet. How can you help the facility build a case? There is some language in the non-regulatory guidance that can assist in helping build a case related to health and fitness. Another resource is the Program Administration Planning Toolkit. 

Sharon Burton, ED – I concur with David’s response.

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – Going back to Karen’s point, can you help build the case? In some cases, you may be able to and in other cases you may not be able to.

RaTasha Bradley, IL – Athletic programs may not be geared toward education. If it is physical education and there are some learning goals, then it would be allowed. I also align the questions with Title I, Part A and it is not allowed under Title I, Part A.

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – A personal training course/certification is an example that may be helpful. Within Subpart 2, there is more flexibility. As RaTasha said, it is important to consider what the academic or learning component is.

Driver’s Education

Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – Is Driver’s Education an allowable expense?

Clarifying Question from a State – Is it part of the school curriculum, or is it separate?

Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – It is separate.

Feedback from Another State – If it is not precluded in the statute or guidance, does it align with the state’s plan and goals? Does it align with the district’s goals? Are there other district sources that could pay for the expense?

Francine Stromberg, NJ – Does this not all go back to the facility’s application?

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – It should be part of the application.

Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – Even if it is in the application, we do not know if it is approvable.

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – If it is couched within independent living.


Karen Auble, OH – What about fieldtrips?

Mary Russman, NY – How can it be tied to an academic indicator that can be tied to an outcome that they have? We ask subgrantees to demonstrate how the fieldtrip can be tied to an indicator and outcome. We also ask about other sources of funding that can be used.

Karen Auble, OH – Thanks, Mary. That's been my recommendation as well.

Sharon Burton, ED – Connecting to an academic indicator is important.


Ada Daniels, WA – Paying for transportation for a student who is court ordered to attend school out of their district to another district. Is this allowable? We can talk later.


Pre- and Posttests

Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – What type of pre and post instruments are being used in other facilities and in other states?

Paula Monarch-Palmieri, NY – Is the TABE allowable?

David Blumenthal, NDTAC – We have a tip sheet. 

Save the Date: December “Office Hours”: Friday, December 21, 2018


*Please contact your TA liaison for the recording and slides.